Book of mormon obvious fake

Mormon leaders decry samesex marriage and counterfeit lifestyles. Book of mormon proved a fraud globedemocrat september. The book of mormon contains an account of this visit, including the very words spoken by jesus. It was presented to the general authorities of the lds church on january 4, 5, and 26, 1922. I ordered the book of mormon once and apparently, it came with two. What we object to is having such a fake story being taught as accurate church history. This beautiful volume is crafted in sturdy bonded leather cover with gold detailing and spine label that is recreated to exact specifications. I believe in jesus christ as my savior and redeemer. The forums in the christian congregations category are now open only to christian members. An examination of the book of mormon comparing the 1830 original edition with later editions, reveals the many changes that have been made. Joseph smiths perverted habit of marrying teenage girls, and stealing other mens wives to be his polygamous wives.

Linguistic evidence that proves the book of mormon isnt true. Earlier this year, scott rudin, a producer for the book of mormon. Oct 23, 2012 dawkins repeatedly claims the book of mormon is an obvious fake. Fulfill the corporate mission of book of mormon central censor to increase understanding of the book of mormon as an ancient mesoamerican codex. That doctrine was the obvious downfall of joseph smith, and he was killed in. These include the bom musical, and my friend being an exmormon and extremely anti. Even the latterday saints mormons church is backpedaling the importance of the book of abraham. The methodological errors in thinking book of mormon locations ought to be identified today are thoroughly and insightfully addressed in a 1993 article by william hamblin, entitled basic methodological problems with the antimormon approach to the geography and archaeology of the book of mormon journal of book of mormon studies 21 spring. Quite recent scholarship has exposed every single other mormon document as at best a scrawny compromise and at worst a pitiful fake, as dr. The book of mormon and the doctrines teach girls to basically worship their husbands, who fyi they have to share, as if they were a god.

Joseph smith allegedly received the gold nephi plates the book of mormon from the angel moroni. Frame joseph smith as an ignorant speculator who misled the church, thereby keeping readers of bom c c ignorant and confused so they cannot make informed decisions about choosing between the. This is not the case with new world archaeology and the book of mormon. Every time i think ive read it for the last time, some new topic of consideration comes up and find myself going through it again. At one point the last saint in the americas mormons son.

Dna evidence that proves the book of mormon is not true, archeological evidence that proves the book of mormon isnt true. Iow, thanks to m2c, church historians in volume 1 of saints and at historic sites and the m2c citation cartel byu studies, book of mormon central, etc. It might be the funniest thing in the world to me when someone tells me with absolute certainty that the book of mormon isnt true after having admitted never actually reading the book themselves. The lds church admits on their website that the book of abraham is not a translation of the papyri joseph claimed it was a translation of. Mormon and nonmormon egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do not match the translation given in the book of abraham. The book of mormon is such an obvious fake, claims of its historicity arent worth any serious persons time. The book of mormon is mystical and has no recognized source material still available to mankind. Jun 20, 2019 the book of mormon has yet to have been proven to be a fraud. Studies of the book of mormon presents 3 essays written by elder b. Thats why such contraevidenced beliefs are attributed to loving goddelusions, regardless of actual damage to real people report abuse. Oct 11, 2019 as recorded in the doctrine and covenants, the lord sent missionaries to the indians living in new york, ohio, and missouri, specifically identifying them as lamanites and telling them that he the lord would go with them and be in their midst. Jun 22, 2010 you are coming up with too many reasons why the book of mormon is fake instead of why it is true.

Brodie was obliged to notice when she reissued and. Also, it includes several doctrines now considered false by leaders within the presentday mormon church. The book of mormon has yet to have been proven to be a fraud. Feb 05, 2018 the methodological errors in thinking book of mormon locations ought to be identified today are thoroughly and insightfully addressed in a 1993 article by william hamblin, entitled basic methodological problems with the anti mormon approach to the geography and archaeology of the book of mormon journal of book of mormon studies 21 spring. The killers frontman brandon flowers was forced to defend his religion when author and ethologist richard dawkins called the book of mormon an obvious fake on a swedish talk show. Frame joseph smith as an ignorant speculator who misled the. If the book of abraham was a fraud, is the book of mormon fake also. The fake book is made really, really, real, by wishing it was so. The book of mormon is a sacred text of the latter day saint movement, which adherents believe contains writings of ancient prophets who lived on the american. Oct 11, 2009 the book of mormon which was written primarily by the prophet mormon is a record of gods dealings with the inhabitants here in the americas.

The second part of the published book of mormon from mosiah to mormon is mormons abridgement of the large plates of nephi. These relate to artifacts, animal, plant, or technology that critics believe did not exist in the americas during the book of mormon time period before 2500 bc to about 400 ad. This alone makes smith a false prophet and disanulls his claim to be sent by god. I think i have proof that mormonism is not true youtube. There would be much, much more to say as to why the book of mormon is not an ancient record but an obvious production of a very intelligent and creative person, joseph smith, who used a number of. Please, i would love to hear some reasoned arguments as to why it is true. Third, this argument, if applied consistently, precludes central america as a possible setting because the text never once mentions volcanoes, jungles, jade, tapirs, or. This is not the case with new world archaeology and the book of. The book of mormon is a sacred text of the latter day saint movement, which adherents believe contains writings of ancient prophets who lived on the american continent from approximately 2200 bc to ad 421.

Top 10 embarrassments of the mormon religion listverse. Documented evidences are given to show that the major doctrines and teachings of the mormon church are contrary to the teachings of the book of mormon. If the book of mormon is true, then joseph smith was a prophet. They use mormonisms own authorities to discredit the faith, such as the book of mormon witnesses supposedly contradicting themselves. I would also love to hear some reasoned arguments about your views on the book of abraham and why no other translations match that of js. A book of mistakes, error, and fraud by jon gary williams introduction the mormon church promotes the book of mormon as an inspired writing. An organization called book of mormon central, which i refer to as book of mormon central america and book of mormon central censor bomcc, has a corporate goal to increase understanding of the book of mormon as an ancient mesoamerican codex. If you attempted to produce something like the book of mormon today, using the best science fiction writers, fully aware of all that we know about the culture of mesoamerica, fully aware of everything that we know about how you create a fake document, it would still be obvious, if not immediately, then within 15 or 20 years.

A further two thousand words of the book of mormon are taken from. The facts are that he mistranslated portions of the bible, as well as the book of abraham, the kinderhook plates, and a greek psalter. The book of mormon is mystical and has no recognized source material still. Mormonism is a religion less than two centuries old, but in this short time it has managed to accrue a long list of embarrassments which the church leaders would prefer were kept. Official response of the mormon church to the book of abraham. Well firstly, joseph smith, the prophet, translated the papyri. If you remove quotes from the bible, the book of mormon has about 258k words, compared to 184k words in the new testament, and 77k in the quran and the first harry potter novel. I was first introduced to the church through many different ways, mainly negative. Book of mormon proved a fraud globedemocrat september 29, 1902.

The m2c triumvirate and the fake moronimary whitmer story. Second, book of mormon authors rarely mentioned weather, and when mormon did alma 46. Apr 27, 2007 quite recent scholarship has exposed every single other mormon document as at best a scrawny compromise and at worst a pitiful fake, as dr. The book of mormon has a lot of kjv verses and chapters plagairized, and the kjv is notorious for being a poor translation. Top mormon official admits mormonism is a fake religion. These include the bom musical, and my friend being an ex mormon and extremely anti. My response to greg trimbles recent blog, so you think the book of mormon is a fraud. After doing a chapterbychapter analysis of the book of mormon, i found that, according to persuitte, less than 4. Death blow to mormonism the book of abraham is a fake.

Youre either lying about what you say about the book of mormon or are misinformed. Gives more focus to a phony frame that attacks the mormon church. The kjv of the bible has been shown to have many mistranslations in it. It was first published in march 1830 by joseph smith as the book of mormon. As far as i know, there is no credible evidence that there ever was a book of mormon people, civilization or ancient record written on gold plates. Highlights several false prophecies by joseph smith and brigham young, which by the bibles definition, makes them false prophets. I mean this is a 19th century book written in 16th century english. Christian members please remember to read the statement of purpose threads for each forum within christian congregations before posting in the forum. Moroni finishes the record, seals it, and hides it in the earth until the time comes that the lord jesus christ reveals it to the gentiles and. Deceptively discredits the vast libraries of study on book of mormon theology by lds professionals.

Disproves mormonism using the bible, mormon scripture, statistical analysis and common sense. This book the book of mormon must be either true of false. The new photos peel back another layer of secrecy for a. Mormonism is a religion less than two centuries old, but in this short time it has managed to accrue a long list of embarrassments which the church leaders would prefer were kept silent. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. Dawkins repeatedly claims the book of mormon is an obvious fake.

While translating the book of mormon, he used the urim and thummim rather than dictionaries and grammars of the language. Is the book of mormon a series of parables rather than a. There is no incentive to create such an obvious fake. If the book can be shown to be a product of the 19th century, the church is then not what it claims to be. Smith, a study of population size in the book of mormon, farms, 1994 the book of mormon speaks of 230,000 nephite warriors killed at the battle at cumorah, referring to morm. I have seen what i have seen and i have heard what i have heard george godfrey, and martin harriss response to him, after godfrey suggested that harris had been deceived. Thirdly, the book of abraham provides justification for important mormon doctrines, including the exaltation of man, plurality of gods, priesthood, and premortal existence not found in any of the other canonized scriptures of the lds. Critics of the book of mormon have argued that there are words and phrases in the book that are anachronistic with archaeological findings. As such, it is written in thirdperson narrative by mormon with quotes from the original text in firstperson narrative plus. Did the book of mormon witnesses contradict their testimony. The smoking gun of book of mormon geography book of mormon. Jul 27, 2012 you cannot promote faith in something fake and then pretend to value logic and facts. Apr, 2020 what we object to is having such a fake story being taught as accurate church history.

The church of jesus christ of latterday saints purports to be a reboot, if you will, of the divine franchise. You are coming up with too many reasons why the book of mormon is fake instead of why it is true. For example, critics of mormonism have shown convincing proof that the book of mormon is a synthesis of earlier works written by other men, of the vivid imaginings of joseph smith, and of plagiarisms from the king james bible. Problems with the book of mormon catholic answers catholic. The angel showing joseph smith where the plates were, the magic stone, etc.

According to smith, these characters were from the golden plates the ancient record from which smith claims to have translated the book of mormon and represent the reformed egyptian writing that was on the plates. Now you can apply that also to the book of mormon and pretty much every other bit of scripture he produced. The authority of god given to men throughout time has been taken back and restored many, many times. Fake news, leaked documents, and the book of mormon. The only bible that joseph smith relied on was the king james version. However in parts where the bom quotes the bible, he got lazy and just read directly from the bible, and thats why the errors got transcribed right into the bom. He always told me about the church in an extremely biased way, and so i thought it was an obvious false cult fabricated by an obvious conman. Nov 26, 2019 the first edition of the book of mormon contains numerous instances of extremely poor sentence structure, which for obvious reasons, were changed in later editions. The anthon transcript often identified with the caractors document is a piece of paper on which joseph smith wrote several lines of characters. Mormon and nonmormon egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do not match the translation given in the book of abraham as with the seer stone, the church is relying on its we dont really know exactly what translation entailed excuse to attempt to explain away the obvious fraud. Critics have long accused joseph smith of stealing other works for the book of mormon, but at the end of the day what is most interesting is that most of the themes that are central to the book of mormon were already written. A study january 1922 the first essay is book of mormon difficulties.

If joseph smith was a prophet, then the church of jesus christ of latter day saints is the same church that christ established while he was on the earth. The practice of converting dead people to mormonism. The book of abraham revered as scripture is total fiction as it does not match its source text. The mormon religion exposed the satanic church of jesus christ of latterday saints complied and edited by david j. However, one of those mistranslations that was corrected later on is found in a verse by nephi when he is referencing the brass plates record of isaiah. Last time i went through it was on the vaunted subject of chiasmus, which the saints find.

The book of mormon the keystone of the church is unquestionably the book of mormon. Is deuteroisaiah the death nail to book of mormon truth. Dec 24, 2018 fulfill the corporate mission of book of mormon central censor to increase understanding of the book of mormon as an ancient mesoamerican codex. Many of those mistranslations have been corrected in later versions of the bible which reference the same hebrew and greek scripts that were originally translated off of. The differences between these translations and joseph smiths writings are obvious. Joseph had never published book or story or anything that we know of. However, those of us who earn a living working for the church would like to keep our jobs. I have to say when i read the book of mormon recently, what impressed me is that it is an obvious fake. Please, i would love to hear some reasoned arguments as to. View of the hebrews has many similar themes to the book of mormon. The unknown author behind the series in paul prys weekly bulletin might very well have thought the rumored book of mormon would never even see the light of day.

The book of mormon, true or false budvarson, arthur. The first edition of the book of mormon contains numerous instances of extremely poor sentence structure, which for obvious reasons, were changed in later editions. Mahaffey, of grantesville, to be in his possession. Proof that the book of mormon is a fraud christian forums. Mormon is allegedly a prophethistorian who was the native american believed by mormons to have written the book of mormon the main religious text of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints mormonism. The book of mormon which was written primarily by the prophet mormon is a record of gods dealings with the inhabitants here in the americas. In one of the least welcome signs of the success that the musical the book of mormon is enjoying on broadway, representatives said on monday that counterfeit tickets had been sold to and presented by theatergoers on at least five different occasions in recent weeks adam miller, the company manager for the book of mormon, said in a telephone interview that counterfeit tickets were. The book of mormon is set in north america in the first century. Globedemocrat september 29, 1902 book of mormon proved a fraud. However, after a fair and candid examination of the evidence, many thousands of honest mormons have discovered that this claim simply is not true. Since joseph is on record to be a liar, narcissist, hypocrite, magician, manipulator and sexual predator he can not be trusted and his core claim hence is invalid, regardless of how much divine inspiration he has contributed to this world otherwise. The book of mormon if the book of abraham was a fraud, is. Jun 26, 2012 a few years ago i responded to a news article in which the author stated that joseph was a polygamist. Debunking ancient aliens, the book of mormon and other.

I have looked at the historical accounts and supposed evidences for the book of mormon. An account written by the hand of mormon upon plates taken from the plates of nephi, who claimed that it had been. Each and every person who judges the book of mormon decides if it is true or false will one day answer before god for the conclusions they reach. Yes, deuteroisaiah puts a nail in the coffin to bom historicity claims, but so does virtually everything else. There is no evidence that joseph smith ever translated anything, including the golden plates into the book of mormon. Archaeology in the old world continues to uncover physical evidence of biblical history. Therefore we will gather up all the gull we can muster to lie right at your faces. Before i get flamed i would like to point out three of the more glaring anachronistic errors. If the book of abraham is a fake, might not the book of mormon also be a. What separated the golden bible chronicles from the fake bible chapters was that the latter parodied published and wellknown texts.

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